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all these people thinking they need a vpn willingly funneling all of their traffic to a single company who also promises to not keep logs. like cmon you're playing yourself. i guess its better than letting your isp do the honors

@dmh Isn't a big issue that most of the "no logs" VPNS aren't technically keeping logs, but they're just buying slots from companies that do, so it doesn't matter anyway

@quackbar yea thats a good point but logs was a side note, thinking your traffic is magically safe by routing to some single third party (which not to mention was shortly discovered many are owned by a few big bois companies) is main thing

@dmh Yeah I think it's kind of considered a lesser of two evils. VPNs are fucked but less fucked than letting an ISP do the work i guess

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